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of giant at thatture -- stature. that's when i went to meet pope benedict. >> so had you him as a mentor. you were across the table with him. you spoke with him personally on a regular basis. >> i did. and when he became archbishop in 1977, his gospel students knew we wouldn't be able to see him often. but he said let's get together every year. so the school or student circle, we met with him on a weekend, in a monastery. we would have meals together, mass together, conversation. it was wonderful. >> okay. >> and then even more for me was back in 1989, four priests got together, myself, one from the u.s., one from belgium, austria. the dominkan priest was there. i was sitting with father of the priests. and they are all seeking to try to lead the church. so because of that, i would meet every year for several days with the fathers. so i had the chance of spending a lot of time with them. >> there has been benefit to your knowing pope benedict xvi. outside of how you know him as teacher and scholar, what kind of man is he, as a regular guy
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